Wednesday, November 20, 2024

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Sunday, November 17, 2024

Capitalismo Policiado

 https://sccbesme-humanidade.blogspot.com/2019/ ( Leia todo o artigo)

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-middle-ground-between-capitalism-and-communism (*)

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    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2017/01/09/review-why-president-obama-reformed-wall-street-and-what-reform-has-accomplished

  •    Wall Street Reform Two -Years Later: Reforming the System and Protecting American Consumers

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https://www.quora.com/What-is-the´middle-ground-between-capitalism-andcommunism

 (*) What is the middle ground between capitalism and communism?

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It sounds like a simple question!

First off, the “third way” (fascism) isn’t a halfway point between capitalism and communism. Fascism exists on a different axis. No pun intended.

Second, let’s be clear that communism is not the same as state capitalism. State capitalism under a single party tyranny is what the Soviet Union was; the Soviet Union never established communism, they just said they wanted to do that someday. Communism would be where there is no government and working people share in everything. And let’s also be clear that pure capitalism has never happened, either. Basically, both represent very hard to accomplish ideals.

A balance between capitalism (rule by capital) and communism (a worker’s paradise) would be democratic socialism — basically the position of Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The power of owners of capital would be balanced against the power of working class people. Capitalists would still exist under democratic socialism, they would just be a lot less wealthy relative to working people and a lot less powerful.

So, to return to the issue of fascism, the capitalism vs. communism axis has to do with the power of workers vs. the power of capitalists (owners of the means of production). Fascism may sometimes pretend to care about this relationship, but that’s really a deception to get your attention. In truth, fascism is about enforcing a traditional hierarchy, and instead of capitalists, it is more about land ownership (land is a significantly different from capital), race, gender/sexuality, and religion. The fact that fascists are working on a different conceptual axis from everyone else (because everyone else long ago rejected racism, sexism, theocracy, etc.) means that the whole idea of left and right can get really confusing. In the US, the Democrats are near-right on the capitalism-communism axis, yet from the Republican perspective, the Democrats are “far left” because the Democrats so clearly oppose the traditional hierarchies that Republicans feel must rule. Republicans love capitalism when the “right” people own the capital, and hate capitalism when the “wrong” people own the capital; they have no coherent ideological relationship to capitalism.

Let me expand on the “land ownership” vs. “capital ownership” issue. Clearly, land can be used to produce — it is a “means of production” for food and other resources. From the fascist perspective, though, the productive potential of land isn’t what matters. Instead, they see ownership of land as giving a person authority and will suggest that people who don’t own land shouldn’t be able to vote and/or “have no skin in the game”. They also tend to fabricate a narrative to establish an historical reason for why the land belongs to their preferred group. The popular fascist chant of “blood and soil” is about giving the fascist’s preferred ethnic group total authority over a geographical area.

From a capitalist perspective, land ownership isn’t that important because, though the land sort of produces resources, it is really the machinery that allows those resources to be produced; the machinery is the capital, not the land.

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Socialism is public ownership of a means of production.

Capitalism is a private ownership of a means of production.

Third world countries lack any public infrastructure. Undeveloped nations with little to no public infrastructure are Capitalism gone too far/extreme. When private enterprise has a monopoly capitalist greed prevents the working class from having financial prosperity.

Purely Socialized p

Theoretically Fascism, though in practice it is the modern day mixed economy, which the vast majority of countries are. How much of a mix between capitalism and socialism a mixed economy has in it varies considerably depending on what country you are talking about. China is officially a communist country, though since economic reforms in the 70s economically speaking it is more of a mixed economy. China is less capitalistic than the US, but is still capitalistic enough to not call it a pure socialist system.

Scandanavian countries that have generous social welfare systems are far more capitalis

To answer that question, let’s look at the definition of each:

Capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Communism is a political theory derived from Karl Marx that advocates a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs by the state.

Therefore there is no middle ground that exists in theory between the two systems. However, there is a movement by Liberals i.e. the “Left” to find middle ground between Capit

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In one sense the answer is there are an infinite number of intermediate approaches. Even the most radical and ruthless socialist states were forced to retain some aspects of capitalism in order to provide basic necessities to their populations; and capitalist countries have extensive public sectors run along socialist principles and strong regulation of the private sector.

But in another sense the answer is no. You have to choose whether individual autonomy and rights or the social good is your fundamental principle. If the former, you’re basically capitalist, even if you sometimes override ind

There’s no “middle ground” between traditional (non-market) socialism and capitalism because both operate under different dynamics. While capitalistic or socialistic elements can exist in either system, the fundamental defining characteristics - the economy’s “laws of motion” - can either be driven by the accumulation of capital (whether regulated, directed or unregulated) or by interlinked, conscious economy-wide planning (whether decentralized, centralized or distributed).

If we define socialism simply as public or collective ownership of most an economy’s enterprises and capitalism as the pr

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No, and there doesn’t need to be.

Probably the leading definition in political science of socialism is the range of reactions to the advent of capitalism intended to improve the lot of the working class. Some, such as communitarianism, were already in existence. Others, such as Marxism, Fourierism, Syndicalism, Bolivarianism, Fascism and more, arose after 1800, that is, as capitalism was starting to bear fruit.

These various socialisms are not necessarily defined as “social ownership of the means of production.” They in fact have a range of attitudes toward “the goose that lays the golden eggs.”

According to Adolf Hitler, the third empire was the middle ground. This was certainly desired by him and other national socialists.

When judging the economics of the third empire, you have to keep in mind that their priorities were taking a lot of land in eastern Europe, especially from the Soviet Union, to become self-sufficient, and ethnic cleansing. A civil war within Germany, with capitalists funding the opposition, would have gotten in the way. Such a war happened in the former Russian empire when the Bolsheviks took over. So while Hitler abolished private property soon after his election

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Capitalism generally works better, or much better, than Communism. Human greed and familial bonds consistently turn out to be mightier motivators for most of us than a promise of universal equality and justice some generations ahead.

Yet, just like the broken clock that shows the right time twice a day, Communism can achieve a remarkable superiority in some situations. It’s important to recognize these situations because that’s when the red horsemen of revolutionary justice get a chance.

  • Among people who believe that preparing for a glorious death, or for eternal salvation is more important than

I think its called social democracy as we see in most Western countries. Government is responsible for maintaining the infrastructure, defending the nation, and maintaining a safety net for those who find themselves unemployed or disabled. Capitalism is responsible for employing the masses and producing the goods and services needed for the masses. It seems to work fairly well most of the time.

That depends on what you mean by “socialized policies.”

Alan Sloan's answer measures socialism against capitalism by comparing public and private spending.

Strictly speaking, socialism is public ownership of the means of production. In that sense, socialism would be measured against capitalism by comparing public and private enterprise. The middle ground would be public operation of some enterprises while others are privately operated for profit.

In some economies, the public post office also operates the telephone system. Public utilities could be publicly owned. A national health service is a p

Well, there is, which is just a mix of both. Pretty much all countries practice this to different degrees. You leave a lot of things to the free market but the government still set up a welfare program and fund things that the market won’t (like emergency services, military, and public education).

Just note though that the term “Third Way” has been coopted by these folks:

In capitalism businesses are privately owned, but in communism they are publically owned.

The middle ground might be some businesses being privately owned, some publically owned. (Mixed economy) That is often thought to be desirable for businesses that are natural monopolies, or which are socially useful but not profitable. Or let workers own shares in companies.

But you might look at the question a different way. Communism might be considered desirable for the equality it could bring, while capitalism might fail on equality, but create greater wealth. Then the middle ground involves reducing in

“What is the middle ground between capitalism and communism? Is this middle ground desireable? Why or why not?”

This is tricky to talk about seriously, because by now, the meanings of each of those terms have been so corrupted, twisted and tortured, that it’s rare to find two people who mean the same thing by each of them.

The big problem I see with trying to talk about a “middle ground,” is that capitalism and communism, at least in their basic theoretical forms, are not “opposites” in any sense of that word.

There are entirely different goals involved, that again aren’t opposites.

One of the ear

Every economy is a mixture of socialism and capitalism. Socialism is public roads, public schools etc. All of the infrastructure and services that governments provide to support broad opportunity is socialism.

Capitalism is private enterprise, often making use of the public infrastructure and services, to create value.

Capitalism is not a problem. Unregulated Capitalism is a problem. Socialism is not a problem. Unlimited socialism is a problem. Capitalism and socialism are both socio-economic tools, not systems. Both capitalism and socialism, like all tools, have strengths and weaknesses, useful

Yes, we have an example of it in Western Europe, although there are both constructive and destructive pressures at work to unbalance it.

Thanks to a media dominated by wealthy and educated individuals, we have been persuaded that economics is about money. This is a huge advantage to the already wealthy 50% but is based on a giant lie.

Most of the value added to individual lives comes from ourselves and our community, and most of that value is people contributing what they can, taking what they needand ignoring money, social class, national boundaries etc. In a word, it is communist in nature.

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Communism as a political system exists only in the leftist fairytales, not REAL life. According to the religion of Marxism orthodoxy, Communism is a kind of heaven equivalent. Its immature/inferior phase called Socialism can exist. Just look at those failed states, past and current.

There is no middle ground. Socialism means all means of production and everything else belongs to the omnipresent State. No matter what the socialist for-PR “constitution” says, people are slaves to the ruthless “progressive”/”people’s”, etc. bureaucracy. That bureaucracy serves/belongs to the unreplaceable ruling P

Anyone that speaks of socialism and capitalism only theoretically/abstractly you should listen to with a pinch of salt; because in reality, things are pretty messy, and there are a lot of contradictions and difficulties, and every economic system (capitalism, socialism and alternatives such as social democracy) have inherent instabilities. Knowledge of economic history is critical for such realism. Unfortunately humans tend to forget the lessons of history and are therefore bound to repeat them.

Short Answer: Yes there is a middle ground - social democracy. Yet there are a variety of social dem

Of course capitalism is better! That’s the expected answer, right?

Well, in my opinion, communism is actually better. Much better. BUT, communism is better than capitalism in the same way that a flying unicorn is better than a regular horse. While communism might be better in theory, it’s unrealistic and completely impractical.

As we already know, any country or society that tries to implement commu

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Mussolini suggested the third way was fascism, the middle way. Ownership is private, but control is with the state. No commercial action can take place where it does not match to government policy. So, you may innovate as an entrepreneur, but only where the government sees a benefit and allows your actions via license as a benefit to the state and support of state policies.

This matches the behavioral pattern in Fascist Italy, Germany, Spain, Argentina all the way through Iraq under Hussein.

They’re called mixed economies that are well regulated.

The thing is they’re flexible.

Eh? The UK under the Gordon Brown regime had GDP reliant on the public sector approaching 50% while East Germany never exceeded 30%.

So you have a bit of both.

You have socialist policies to do the unprofitable things that pure capitalism will handle poorly an example being Public goods , there is no profit in street lighting for instance.

You have TIGHTLY controled capitalism which doesn’t get the opportunity to co-opt government policies and become crony.

Fair market free enterprise:

As in the depiction below, it is the hardest social position to maintain (each tending to swung to the opposite position)… the balance… the happy medium…

I’ll tell you a story about an experiment. A bunch of students in one class were convinced that communism/socialism is far better than capitalism. They tried to convince their history teacher too. The teacher then invented a new grading system.

There would be only 1 grade - it will be the average grade and it will be given to everyone - total equality. How did it go?


  • First test: Average grade was B, this pleased the bad students, but the top class students were angry about it, since they prepared for the tests
  • Second test: The best students didn’t want to try hard anymore, they prepared less, the

Well, the US today is that middle ground.

The US Government controlled about 2% of the GDP c. 1900. That was basically a 98% Capitalistic society.

The Politburo of the USSR controlled about 75% of the GDP of the Soviet Union c. 1970. The more extreme times, e.g., Mao’s China and Stalinist USSR, were characterized by more like 85% of the GDP controlled centrally, as does North Korea today.

The US Government presently controls about 40% of the US GDP. This degree of central planning is about midway between the two more defined endpoints the world has witnessed.

So the problem with communism is it is not practical. The problem with capitalism is it can be very unfair. Capitalism should not be allowed to become - money rules and decides what happens because it is unfair. Money cannot decide everything.

This is possible when people come together f...

“How is communism better than capitalism?”

TLDR: Mainly, by the abolition of competition and strictly mandated equality.


Here’s the working definition of Communism according to Scientific Marxism:

It’s (1) a stateless society of self-governing communities, (2) with no private ownership of the means of production, and (3) with sky-high productivity that allows for each to work and contribute according to their capabilities and consume according to their needs.

All this necessarily leads to the following:

  • No one has individual economic agency. All production and consumption is community-based.
  • Communi

According to Marxism, Socialism is a transitional society between Capitalism and Communism. Under Socialism, (1) there is no private property on the means of production, (2) the power is held by the Communist party, (3) there are only two non-exploitative classes, workers and collective peasants, with an additional “layer” of office workers.

The only middle ground between this and Capitalism is the black market (BM).

  • BM appears because of imbalances and inefficiencies of the Socialist economy.
  • BM is populated by members of non-exploitative classes, because all the others have already been purged

I suppose it can depend on your definition of these words, but generally speaking I’d say there cannot really be a middle ground due to the fundamental differences between capitalism and socialism. One system encourages (or at the very least results in) an upper ruling class which owns the vast majority of land and capital which it then uses to exploit the lower working class to further expand their power and wealth. This results in a massively disproportionate distribution of wealth, influence, and power between the upper class (often called “the 1 percent”) and the lower class (often called

Yes, Germany would be a good example of “social market Economy “ which basically means that companies are privately owned and competing, but the Gouvernement lays down a set of ground rules and will intervene If for example a company is trying to establish a Monopoly or is using short term predatory pricing to put competition out of Business by simply beeing able to Take losses for a longer time

No, these economic systems are diametrically opposed, Capitalism is a system of wealth accumulation through the production of profit, a buying, selling, trading, exchange, market driven society, where profit comes before people or the environment, What is Capitalism?.

Whereas Communism/Socialism will be a global moneyless, stateless, classless, wageless society where production is for use not profit and there will be free access to all goods and services, where all workvwill be entered into voluntarily and can only be established when the overwhelming majority of the worlds workers understand a

Anarcho-syndicalism I think. In that hybrid system, a collective or syndicate could be run either for the public good or for profit. Contrary to what some uneducated armchair political economists think, communism is not an oppressive economic system or a pipe dream. There has never been any large-scale implementation of communism in the modern world, but small groups have practiced some form of communism.

Basically every country in the world today.

Socialism is the public ownership of the means of production.

Just about every country in the world has a government that owns some aspect of that economy’s means of production.

In my view, if we are going to classify nations as “capitalist” or “socialist”, we should do so by looking at the GDP. If more than 50% of that comes from state-owned enterprises, it is socialist. If less than 50% comes from state-owned enterprises, it is capitalist. That is the only meaningful way of using these words to classify countries in today’s world.

Communism and Capitalism are abstract ideas. None of them can function in a hypothethical "pure" form, because both of them carry in them the seed to their own destruction:

"pure" capitalism unhampered by restrictions or government oversight would lead to crises and excesses that make the current financial crisis seem like peanuts; you'd have people starving on the streets, and a handful of people owning everything. We already live in a world where the wealthiest 85 people on the planet own more than the poorest 3.5 billion. A world where it instead was the wealthiest 10 people on the planet ow

What you refer to as a “third way”, something between capitalism and socialism is what FDR put in place. I don’t know if it has an “-ism”, but it was smart, pragmatic and it worked. Maybe we should call it “American exceptionalism”. (Yes, I know that term is used for something else, but not accurately.) Too bad the republicans have destroyed that balance. Now we have to start all over again building an economy that works for everyone.

Yes, but currently there is just one working model, a Chinese one, god for them but is not applicable on the west.

Social democracy. A democracy with some socialist type social programs. Examples include most of Scandinavia, or the universal healthcare programs in most of Europe, and things like generous unemployment programs, job training, parental leave, child care, that are available in many European countries.

Capitalism and Communism are both fundamentally ruled by the Pareto principle.

Of course, many factors insert themselves in the equation and interrupt a clean and nice 80–20 distribution in the society, but the underlying trend points in this direction. Roughly speaking, under Capitalism, during linear uninterrupted growth, 20% of the population tend to accumulate 80% of national wealth—and among these, the top 20% again control 80% of the wealth.

Under Communist rule, there are no centers of economic power apart from the Socialist State. (Socialism is a transition between Capitalism and Communi

It’s called “socialdemocracy”, and it is practiced in many European countries, especially the Nordic - with great success.

Read more here: Why Scandinavia can teach us a thing or two about surviving a recession

Corporatism….Russia/China. Not a good thing but in my opinion where we are headed. The Pols who are usually incompetent except at sheep herding…demagoguery …need the imaginative and entrepreneurial. But they, the thugs, the Party, will have the guns and gulags.

What is the middle ground between capitalism and communism?

There are many words for this. The most specific is “Interventionism”.

https://mises.org/library/critique-interventionism

https://mises.org/library/interventionism-economic-analysis

However, a more common name is “Fascism”. The so-called “Third Way”. Titular private property, but only under tight government regulation.

The middle ground between Capitalism and Communism is:

  • communists are allowed to (are free to) set up their communes on private land they buy & own in common, and
  • are free to persuade anyone they can to join them,
  • within otherwise free-market capitalist nations.

Of course, communists will be prohibited from using force or coercion to keep anyone from leaving their communes.

Third Way, which is a fascist political ideology. Not all fascists are the supporters of it, only some; Pinochet was a free market fascist, for example.

Yes, there is a middle ground between socialism and capitalism. Its called fascism. Private individuals are allowed to hold title to property, including the means of production, but the state tells everyone what to do with their property.

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Unfortunately, that turns out to be just another form of socialism.

So you can try what we have in America right now, a mixed economy. This is a system which allows private property, but occasionally allows violations of private property rights. Government authorities end up with arbitra

Democratic socialism.

I’m far left but apart from Basics of life. Free market capitalism is fine by me.

Communism never has never really existed. In an alternate Universe the Soviets could have got China to make cheap goods for the Soviet population as they had money and Socialists main objective is 100% employment.

I’m not a huge fan of communism or capitalism in a modern era with Automation and industrialisation. Both systems will fail as they both rely on employment in some way.

I believe advocates of communism like to use bait and switch tactics. The original question was:

“Is true communism better than capitalism?”

“True” communism is imaginary communism, a society where everyone shares everything equally, the workers have full control of the means of production, and the state has withered away. In this supposed utopia, nobody goes hungry, everyone has a place to live, adequate health care, and anything else they want. Nobody is troubled by feelings of envy because nobody has more than anyone else, or is even stronger or smarter than anyone else. Everything is perfect

The economic system we have in the United States is not ‘Capitalism’, it is called free-markets. It just means that individuals and groups can trade goods and services on a voluntary basis, both at home and with other countries.

Because our Constitution gives the Federal Government the ability to file patents and copyrights for people and organizations, this allows those who develop new products and services to benefit from their effort. As you probably know, Bill Gates started Microsoft in his garage.

Free-markets and free trade with other countries lead to more prosperity for all. No other sys

There is a dualistic system, with capitalism and collectivism working in opposition. Many systems use push-pull mechanisms of opposing forces. Either of these economic systems in isolation will harm people. Making them compete is efficient, self-regulating and safer.

Capitalism is a political system in which individuals own all the property that isn’t required for the government. The government’s basic function consists in ensuring individual freedom and property rights, and enforcing contracts. The government could be democratic or not. In history, capitalist countries have included democratic and non-democratic regimes, but most have been democratic.

Socialism is a political system in which the state owns all the property. That state could be democratically controlled, but need not be. In history, most socialist societies were not democratic.

Communism is

Socialism and capitalism can only coexist in a single system if you narrowly and inaccurately define socialism as publicly-owned enterprise and capitalism as private enterprise while ignoring the dynamics of the broader economy and patterns of social relationships within the economy’s constituent institutions. To use Marx’s terminology, this amounts to looking at the “surface appearances” of systems while leaving the underlying processes which characterize capitalism intact. Hence an economy with a high amount of state ownership where enterprises are organized as commercial profit-maximizing e

Yep: social democracy. Regulated capitalism for the common good. Look it up; it’s what the Nordic countries use.

According to Lenin it was “socialism”.

That was the way to alter the habits of people who might one day be ready for communism.

It was a half way point between the past of capitalism and aristocracy and the goal of egality and equality which was hoped to be the future.

This is why most countries have embraced substantial socialism. Even the USA has a great many socialist policies. A country cannot run without them.

The capitalism is in part balanced by socialism.

Socialism with Chinese characteristics

Few nations on earth use exclusively one or the other. Those who have tried it tend to suffer for it. The early United States was almost exclusively capitalistic. Even its fire squads were for-profits, which led Ben Franklin to organize the first volunteer department. Government supplied almost nothing. That persisted for the most part until the early 20th century. Even regulation of business wasn't done except in rare cases. Sweat shops were commonplace.

Other nations rejected capitalism as exploitative and tried almost entirely a form of socialism. Cuba, China, and the Soviet Union are just

Kickstarter!

Seriously. Capitalism just means your world is run by an "investor class" of people who make their money by betting their capital on new companies.

In Capitalism these people are necessary because things like factories are expensive. You need a lot of money up-front for tooling, or building the infrastructure of your web-app. etc. The capitalist puts that money in, but then retains a share of the company and gets into competition with everyone else about how to divide the "economic rent". Often successfully grabbing the largest chunk of it.

Kickstarter, or crowdfunding in general, d

It would have to be zero percent communism. Young people in particular are drawn to communism and socialism because on paper, it sounds good. The idea is to give more power to the people, but the reality is the opposite occurs “every time” and for good reason. In order for Communism or Socialism to have some success, you need an honest government, something only obtainable in dreams. Capitalism thrives regardless of whether the government is honest or not because everyone has access to the free market. Capitalism could certainly be improved by having a government that played referee to keep th

What’s the difference between liberals and communists, and what are the pros and cons of capitalism and communism?

Right firstly I’ll deal with your first 2 questions and then I’ll deal with your third.

So the difference between liberalism and communism, is capitalism—liberals are capitalists, communists are socialists. What is meant by that is who they both believe should own the means of production. Liberals (capitalists) believe, wrongly, imao, that the means of production should be in the charge of private citizens or the capitalist class (or bourgeoisie).

And the pros and cons of capitalism

Here’s an analogy to help you understand the differences between capitalism, communism, and socialism:

Imagine you have three children and a cake. In capitalism, the first child to the cake takes as much as they want, and the other two children have to fight for the remaining pieces. In communism, the cake is divided equally among the three children. In socialism, the cake is divided based on how much each child contributed to making it.

Here's a table comparing capitalism, communism, and socialism in various aspects:

So, to describe each of them in one sentence, it is as follows:

  • Capitalism: A sy

Communism is the myth that concentrating the wealth and the means of production under the state would benefit our well being.

We’ve seen how well that works in practice.

Communism was conceived as the reaction to Capitalism’s extremities.

Capitalism, in turn, is the myth that a few people’s amassing wealth will benefit our well being in long term. Like they’ll ever get bored of getting richer and start charities.

Well, Bill Gates did it already, so, I guess, there is hope.

As a side myth, it suggests that a market will magically adapt to everyone’s best interest.

We’ve also seen how well that works.

Capitalist competition among communistic entities, entities that are voluntary.

Marx concluded that, eventually, humans would evolve to be communistic in their interactions with each other - non-coercive communism would be the character or all human societies, eventually.

Leninism is the idea that government should force all human interactions and human societies to be communistic with threat (and actuality) of being bayoneted, shot, or imprisoned for non-compliance.

Marx may have been right, in several thousand years all human societies, from families to world-wide society, may become communist.

Communism as a tool and ideology for taking and retaining power is far superior to anything Capitalist. Nazism and Fascism tried their hand, and failed miserably time after time. The only worthy opponent to Communism as per today is militant Islamism of the ISIS variety.

  1. The Communist ideology is dichotomic. Since everything is about class struggle, either you are on the side of oppressors, or on the side of the suffering masses. Consider this famous slogan from the Soviet writer Maxim Gorky “On which side are you, "master of culture"?” Anyone wants to side with the leeches and bloodsuckers?
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It is like asking 'is capitalism objectively better than feudalism? while living inside a feudal system.

The capitalists are the owners of all wealth of social significance. In comparison to them all previous owning classes—feudal lords, slave-owners, churches and ancient potentates—appear like paupers.

Communism/socialism proper is a post capitalist society which is progressively resolves problems capitalism can not resolve.

Just as we couldn't mass produce in feudalism without moving vast numbers of peasants into manufacturing of commodities within a waged enslaved condition and changing

Whatever mix comes about through free choice. Milton Friedman gave a sense of what that mix might look like. He pointed out that in Israel they have the Kibbutz system, where residents live communally, without private property. Although not avowedly Marxist, they do practice a form of communism. This is not discouraged by the government. Most of the society sees it as a praiseworthy endeavor. But

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.” - George Orwell

There are probably infinite ways that society can be organized politically, but the key is to recognize that the vast majority of those ways are bad and bad for the same reason: authoritarianism. Communism is bad because it treats individuals as secondary to its political agenda. So do fascism, mercantilism, social democracy, democratic socialism, traditional monarchy, imperialism, Islamism, Greek democracy, etc.

The rulers of the Earth, being the ones that get to wield that authoritarianism

A mixed economy of one-third each capitalism, socialism, communism.

  • Capitalism is an economic system in which the trade and industry of the economy is owned and controlled by private individuals, to make profit.
  • Communism refers to social system in which country's trade and industry are controlled by the community and the share of each individual relies on his ability and needs.

Principle

  • Capitalism is based on the Principle of Individual Rights
  • Communism is based on Principle of Community Rights

Promotes

  • Capitalism promotes Class Distinction
  • Communism promotes Egalitarian Society

System of Government

  • Capitalism- democratic
  • Communism - Totalitarian

Government interferenc

So, a huge misconception that you'd be getting from a lot of these answers is that somehow socialism is either a transition to communism or communism-lite. However, "Communism" as it is generally understood, is a vein of thought within socialism, so it makes more sense to define communism by its relationship to socialism rather than the other way around.

Capitalism: Almost everything exists as some form of privately owned capital (hence the name). This includes labor, which you can sell for a price known as a wage/salary. Each individual is able to buy or sell their capital in the market.

Capitalism did not have to be implemented because it naturally developed itself gradually from feudalism. On the contrary, socialism as a preparation for communism was in reality and practically state capitalism under the leadership of a single political party, the communist one, and it was implemented and forcibly imposed by mad communists from Moscow. And as expected, he did not prove himself. It cannot work because it is the opposite of human nature. It has many unresolved or unsolvable aspects. Every citizen in communism will supposedly contribute to society as best he can, but at the same

In the U.S. the private sector makes up about 2/3rds of the economy and the government makes up about 1/3rd of the economy. That’s the middle ground.

Better for whom? I'm sure Stalin much preferred being a communist dictator over whatever prospects he would have had in a free country. (A public school teacher?)

But you do get a sense of how average people think, if you look at the few cases where we had close proximity of communist and capitalist states, e.g., East and West Germany, North and South Korea, Cuba and the United States. You see people risk their lives to escape communism and reach capitalism, but almost never see someone wanting to go in the other direction.

You seem to be confused. Capitalism is an economic system based on private ownership of infrastructures for the production of goods and services. Whereas communism is a political system based on central planning and control of virtually all aspects of life.

The question would be better asked as, “What is the middle ground between capitalism and socialism,” since both capitalism and socialism are economic systems. And the answer to that is a hybrid system similar to the social democracies in the Nordic countries. These countries are full-on capitalist, but with strong social safety nets and suff

There is no “middle ground.” The productive assets are either privately owned or public ally owned. If private ownership predominates, it’s capitalism. Capitalism can be awful (Russia), bad (US), or sort of OK (Western Europe). But even OK capitalism is still capitalism, not a “middle ground.”

Really? What is the middle ground between something that does exist and a fantasy? What is the middle ground between working for a living and relying on Santa Claus with his elves for satisfying your needs?

NO NO NO NO

Capitalism is good

Communism is pure evil

Good and evil should NEVER mix, never compromise

Evil must be defeated

Any modern Scandinavian nation.

Socialism. Socialism is an economic system where land, capital, and businesses are cooperatively owned and democratically run either by their employees or by the members of the community in which they operate.

That would be Fascism, or what Mussolini called it “the third way”.

What is better is the middle ground between capitalism and socialism. You could call it managed capitalism or social democracy. That’s what 95% of countries have today including the United States, in varying degrees.

No known ’middle ground.’ However, you could use the term ”social capitalism” where the two rigidly overlap.

If one has to see system in between, I think that exists in china today as their economy is more capitalist and are ruling by a communist regime.

Capitalism is not the opposite of communism.

Traditionally, socialism is said to be midway on a continuum between market economies and command economies.

Ultimately, there isn’t any, anymore than there is a middle ground between food and poison or between life and death. In all these cases, it is only death that will win.

There is no middle ground. “In any compromise between food and poison, poison will always win.” — Ayn Rand

There is no middle ground. Capitalism must be abolished, in order to implement Socialism or Communism.

Any European country, Canada and even the USA all have hybrid systems with capitalist and socialist characteristics

A bog. Both systems are defective. They are based on theories which are fundamentally flawed, which is why they lead to bad outcomes. Communism impoverished nearly everyone and is only sustained by tyranny.

Capitalism makes a few people very wealthy, leaves some people very poor and enables the majority to enjoy a decent standard only by getting into life long debt. It lurches from crisis to crisis in a series of booms and busts.

A blend of the two does not get rid of these inherent flaws.

Some might say Socialism, but I would say democratic socialism. Socialism does not necessarily take care of everyone where as democratic socialism does.

There is none. There's no such thing as a ‘mixed economy’. You either have a Market economy, or no economy. Welfare states are market economies. Intervention hampers the market economy but, unless it's so expansive it falsifies the property titles and prices, it's still a market economy.

Regulated capitalism? Unregulated communism? Frankly, there is no middle ground between good and evil.

Communism is premised on communal ownership of resources, both natural and industrial, with the worker's democratically managing their workplaces, with the goal being that production is for the general welfare of society. The details on how goods and services would be provided are non-specific but would not involve currency.

Capitalism is premised on private ownership of resources, both natural and industrial, with the owners autocratically managing their workplace, with the goal being that production is to increase the wealth of the owner(s). Goods and services are distributed based on a redis

democratic socialism or social democracy.

People in Western European countries, in the rich Asian countries, and in Canada have vibrant CAPITALIST economies BUT they have democratic socialism or social democracy. This means that they have totally democratic governments which also gives citizens universal healthcare, free or subsidized tech or higher education, support for families with child care needs, universal retirement and nursing care, generous retirement income on which people can support themselves, regulations to prevent market chaos which can ruin people’s lives, etc. Many of these co

There is no middle ground. There is an alternative to unfettered capitalism though (regulated capitalism).

The middle ground between capitalism and communism is often referred to as social democracy or democratic socialism. Social democracy promotes a mixed economy where both private enterprise and government intervention coexist. It emphasizes regulated markets, social welfare programs, and a strong emphasis on income redistribution to achieve a more equitable society. This approach combines the principles of individual freedom and initiative found in capitalism with the notion of social justice and collective responsibility found in communism.

Communism is virtually dead. I think you mean socialism . Socialism is the middle ground between the two.

The conditions of the proletariate.

But if you mean the compromise is mixed market economy of state ownership and control of some parts of the economy in a democratic republic, and private ownership of capital.

I don´t think there is one

In capitalism, production is to maximise profits for a private owner. People have to compete for jobs, companies compete for clientele

In communism, production is done to produce what the people need, and the workers of the factory are also its owners. In fullblown communism, money and barter can be abolished

The middle ground between capitalism and communism is a mixed economy. In a mixed economy, the government plays a role in regulating the market to ensure fair competition and protect consumers, but private enterprise is still allowed to operate and make profits. This system aims to provide the benefits of both capitalism and communism while avoiding their drawbacks.

It's not capitalism and communism that is the dichotomy. It is communism and democracy. Communism does not allow the people to make decisions, only the state which inevitably makes decisions in its own interests, never willingly giving up power or comfort for the ruling elites. Democracy is flexible enough to use capitalism (the right) while still accommodating socially constructive systems (the left).

This is a bait question where the only answer is “SOCIALISM!!”, the tired old lie of the ultrawealthy using easily duped minds to kill socialistic reforms. There is no middle ground. Both are distinct ecomnomic sytems. Pure capitalism ends with a small handful of ultrawealthy people forming monopolies and owning all resources. Pure communism is where all resources are owned and controlled by the state for fair distribution of those resources. No pure communist state has ever existed. There has always been corrupt individuals and ruling groups, along with their toadies, that live far better tha

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Capitalism is where the production distribution and exchange is privately owned and where capital directs the mode of production . Capitalism exists under liberal democracys where state/govt protects the individual rights including private property the basis of capitalism

Communism is where there is workers emancipation where there is no class no state and no money. this means no capitalist and private property.

These are clearly incompatible

technically, the two extremes are soviet style communism and wild west capitalism (late 19th century).

Between then you can find anything, like very pro capitalist US system with fairly minimal social policies to fascist (corporatists) states and some post communist states (China and Russia) with strong social policies.

In between you will find the Western European systems (social market economies) that offer the best of both worlds, though results may vary (see the ideal case of Germany and Scandinavian countries) or the somewhat imperfect realization in Italy.

And there is no clear ranking. Pos

I’d say we are to the left of middle now. Property rights are still part of the rule of law and there is big government. But I’d add that communism and fascism are both on the far left with massive government. As in the pic.

Social Democracy, with a Socialist government that is a democracy and provides a social safety net, while the economy a regulate capitalist market.

There is none communism in any form will grow like cancer until it crushed the economy. Capitalism is self correcting by people choosing to avoid poor businesses and forcing them to change or fail.

There is no ‘middle ground'. A middle ground would entail a departure from science, aka ‘natural law'. This is a Leftist predilection. The impasse lies in their mind, as it did in Aristotle's, prompting this idea of ‘a Golden Mean'. This ‘goldilocks zone' is a Bermuda triangle of intellectual ambivalence that sabotaged a person's understanding or intellectual efficacy. It rests upon a lack of science. Even psychologists and philosophers are flawed in this respect.

Observe that the contemporary problem is construed to be socialist theory- sociology vs capitalism's practicality. Capitalism is con

ABSOLUTISM.

The people do not consent to their government under either one.

Elections are not consent, which implies the power of citizens to directly overrule their government.

They are ultimatums.

Social Democracy like Those in Sweden and Norway and most of Europe and Canada …..

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Personally, I don’t think that Capitalism is a political concept but more of a system of economic management - Oxford University defines it as “investing money to make more money”. Communism is however a social political concept, the antithesis of which is Classical or Whig Liberalism.

What is the middle ground between capitalism and communism?

Communism is the antithesis of Capitalism and as a consequence there is no 'middle ground' between the two manifestations.

Communism produces nothing while consuming ever greater amounts of the production of Capitalism in order to fuel its metastasizing throughout society and [as is the case with any malignancy] will eventually result in the death of the body [society] that it infests.

The only effective treatment for Communism is its starvation by the severing of its blood supply [money] allowing the host body [the free market] to repai

NO…Socialism is the economic platform that opposes the Private Ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange for goods.

Social Programs are not Socialist….they are created by Democrats who believe Capitalism needs to be Regulated to protect the Working Class.

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Jonah, there has never been a true communist country.

Every Marxist-Leninist country was and still is capitalism aka “State Capitalism”.

Nothing. Absolutely nothing! So called mixed economy, social democracy, 21st Century Socialism are form of capitalism!

Difference between the two is basic & contradictory: Capitalism grows on Private Property, Communism starts on demolition of Private Property and grows on Social Wealth!

Further, Capitalism survives on class, where as Communism annihilates class and is a classless society!